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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2010-02/toyotas-quality-mess-what-would-deming-say/comment-page-1/#comment-18466</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Gede. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Gede. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Gede Manggala</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2010-02/toyotas-quality-mess-what-would-deming-say/comment-page-1/#comment-18460</link>
		<dc:creator>Gede Manggala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett, 
Hello from Indonesia:)
Found your blog when googling on &quot;system thinking&quot;.
An interesting post, and as another learner of Deming&#039;s teaching, I have the same question top.

I recommend this article written by Robert E.Cole in this link bit.ly/jAfs3Q which I think offer a good explanation based on a good research and undertsanding.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett,<br />
Hello from Indonesia:)<br />
Found your blog when googling on &#8220;system thinking&#8221;.<br />
An interesting post, and as another learner of Deming&#8217;s teaching, I have the same question top.</p>
<p>I recommend this article written by Robert E.Cole in this link bit.ly/jAfs3Q which I think offer a good explanation based on a good research and undertsanding.</p>
<p>I</p>
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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2010-02/toyotas-quality-mess-what-would-deming-say/comment-page-1/#comment-2987</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Lito! I think that is an honest reply on the part of Mr. Toyoda. I saw the same thing happen with Dell computers. They were once a really good computer, but then they grew WAY too fast and had big quality problems. Consumers never knew until their Dell&#039;s turned out to be junk. I personally will never buy another Dell in my life - had several of them fail on me. But I do predict that Toyota will come back even stronger eventually. Thanks! Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Lito! I think that is an honest reply on the part of Mr. Toyoda. I saw the same thing happen with Dell computers. They were once a really good computer, but then they grew WAY too fast and had big quality problems. Consumers never knew until their Dell&#8217;s turned out to be junk. I personally will never buy another Dell in my life &#8211; had several of them fail on me. But I do predict that Toyota will come back even stronger eventually. Thanks! Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Lito Valderrama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lito Valderrama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret, my feeling is that Toyota probably started to embrace Western Management (or Management by Objectives).  Mr. Toyoda said yesterday the his company grew too quickly and lost their fundamentals.  I think they worked too hastily to get things to market and picked on their suppliers to make better price points.  I believe this is the system that Toyota needs to back away from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret, my feeling is that Toyota probably started to embrace Western Management (or Management by Objectives).  Mr. Toyoda said yesterday the his company grew too quickly and lost their fundamentals.  I think they worked too hastily to get things to market and picked on their suppliers to make better price points.  I believe this is the system that Toyota needs to back away from.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2010-02/toyotas-quality-mess-what-would-deming-say/comment-page-1/#comment-2969</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Mike! I think you are right. Deming was all about leadership, without which his system of profound knowledge could not be applied to transform a company. Thanks for sharing your insight! Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Mike! I think you are right. Deming was all about leadership, without which his system of profound knowledge could not be applied to transform a company. Thanks for sharing your insight! Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rochelle</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2010-02/toyotas-quality-mess-what-would-deming-say/comment-page-1/#comment-2959</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Rochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret

Isn&#039;t Deming&#039;s philosophy and espicially his 14 points about values and leadership? I understand his vision to be &quot;people with sound values have the capacity to produce quality goods or services at a competitive price.&quot; His teachings are more about who a company is, or at least strives to be, than about what they do. I spent thirty years in manufacturing implementing and re-implementing ERP systems, quality systems, etc. These efforts rarely continued past the point where the company had to change their fundamental values. It would be refreshing if &quot;Toyata&#039;s rise from the fall&quot; were a catalyst for a discussion on developing leaders and effective values instead of our current discussion about management and process.</description>
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<p>Isn&#8217;t Deming&#8217;s philosophy and espicially his 14 points about values and leadership? I understand his vision to be &#8220;people with sound values have the capacity to produce quality goods or services at a competitive price.&#8221; His teachings are more about who a company is, or at least strives to be, than about what they do. I spent thirty years in manufacturing implementing and re-implementing ERP systems, quality systems, etc. These efforts rarely continued past the point where the company had to change their fundamental values. It would be refreshing if &#8220;Toyata&#8217;s rise from the fall&#8221; were a catalyst for a discussion on developing leaders and effective values instead of our current discussion about management and process.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2010-02/toyotas-quality-mess-what-would-deming-say/comment-page-1/#comment-2747</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Kevin, and I think they will. Thanks! Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Kevin, and I think they will. Thanks! Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good questions, Ajo. I think they are going to take a VERY hard hit. But my prediction is that in three years they will be a VERY tough act to beat. I think they are doing to bounce back from this and be stronger and better than ever before. Thanks! Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good questions, Ajo. I think they are going to take a VERY hard hit. But my prediction is that in three years they will be a VERY tough act to beat. I think they are doing to bounce back from this and be stronger and better than ever before. Thanks! Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin J Porter</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2010-02/toyotas-quality-mess-what-would-deming-say/comment-page-1/#comment-2744</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin J Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ajo- Thanks for adding some actual content to my general remarks!  It appears Toyota&#039;s management is attempting to DO THE RIGHT thing.  The situation has already negatively affected the organization, yet Toyota can learn and grow from the system failure if the management follows through with their recent rhetoric.  Hope your semester is going well!

Thanks,
Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ajo- Thanks for adding some actual content to my general remarks!  It appears Toyota&#8217;s management is attempting to DO THE RIGHT thing.  The situation has already negatively affected the organization, yet Toyota can learn and grow from the system failure if the management follows through with their recent rhetoric.  Hope your semester is going well!</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Ajo Cherian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajo Cherian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, Akio Toyoda (President of Toyota) recently wrote a piece in the Washington Post where he apologized for the quality lapse and outlined the steps the company will take to prevent this from happening again - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/08/AR2010020803078.html 

I thought it was a very well-written piece (though I&#039;m sure it&#039;s gone through many internal editors). As the head of the company, I&#039;m glad he&#039;s admitting that Toyota&#039;s current system failed instead of passing the buck. I like the fact that he is promising to put in new processes and systems instead of just apologizing without doing anything to prevent future problems. Bret, I&#039;d be glad to hear your thoughts on whether he did the right thing or is not doing enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, Akio Toyoda (President of Toyota) recently wrote a piece in the Washington Post where he apologized for the quality lapse and outlined the steps the company will take to prevent this from happening again &#8211; <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/08/AR2010020803078.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/08/AR2010020803078.html</a> </p>
<p>I thought it was a very well-written piece (though I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s gone through many internal editors). As the head of the company, I&#8217;m glad he&#8217;s admitting that Toyota&#8217;s current system failed instead of passing the buck. I like the fact that he is promising to put in new processes and systems instead of just apologizing without doing anything to prevent future problems. Bret, I&#8217;d be glad to hear your thoughts on whether he did the right thing or is not doing enough.</p>
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