Comments on: My Favorite Way to Think About Leadership: Part 1 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/ Leadership, followership, and purpose at work Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:29:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bret L. Simmons http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1662 Bret L. Simmons Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:57:40 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1662 I like that, Bruce. Thanks for contributing to this conversation! Bret I like that, Bruce. Thanks for contributing to this conversation! Bret

]]> By: Bruce Lynn http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1661 Bruce Lynn Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:09:58 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1661 Yep...absolutely love that piece from Bennis. So much so that it is the core theme of my own blog on Leadership and Management. My own personal motto (displayed on my blog and email signature) is "Do the right things right" which is inspired by this Bennis quote. Yep…absolutely love that piece from Bennis. So much so that it is the core theme of my own blog on Leadership and Management. My own personal motto (displayed on my blog and email signature) is “Do the right things right” which is inspired by this Bennis quote.

]]> By: Bret L. Simmons http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1658 Bret L. Simmons Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:47:11 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1658 Thanks, Wally! Thanks, Wally!

]]> By: Wally Bock http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1657 Wally Bock Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:11:41 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1657 Here's the link to the post you were thinking of. It's titled "Boss's Work: Leadership, Management, and Supervision." http://blog.threestarleadership.com/2009/05/19/bosss-work-leadership-management-and-supervision.aspx Here’s the link to the post you were thinking of. It’s titled “Boss’s Work: Leadership, Management, and Supervision.”

http://blog.threestarleadership.com/2009/05/19/bosss-work-leadership-management-and-supervision.aspx

]]> By: Bret L. Simmons http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1655 Bret L. Simmons Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:34:49 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1655 Thanks for providing the additional insight, Rosa. I hope folks will stop by your site to check you out and read the link to your article, which is very interesting. Just a BTW, when my daughter plays volleyball and someone on the other team serves the ball into the net, my buddy and I always yell Mahalo! :) Thanks! Bret Thanks for providing the additional insight, Rosa. I hope folks will stop by your site to check you out and read the link to your article, which is very interesting.

Just a BTW, when my daughter plays volleyball and someone on the other team serves the ball into the net, my buddy and I always yell Mahalo! :)

Thanks! Bret

]]> By: Rosa Say http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1654 Rosa Say Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:41:58 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1654 Hmmm… trying to think how to respond to your question without sounding awfully me-centered Bret! I’ve been a student of management and leadership for a long time, and I guess this distinction is what all of MWA is for me; an operational philosophy intended to make workplace cultures healthier. It came from learning from the gurus, but then being blessed to have a service laboratory in which I could practice it all; I was a hotel exec for almost 30 years. Thus I came to believe that people-energy is our most important resource in business – more than time, more than financial capital (for energy creates those two things). People are not necessarily our greatest asset; energetic people are. This is probably the best/ most recent article I have written about it if you’d like to take a look: http://talkingstory.org/2009/06/3-ways-managers-create-energetic-workplaces/ Mahalo Bret, I do feel welcomed here. Thank you for the question and opportunity to better explain. Hmmm… trying to think how to respond to your question without sounding awfully me-centered Bret! I’ve been a student of management and leadership for a long time, and I guess this distinction is what all of MWA is for me; an operational philosophy intended to make workplace cultures healthier. It came from learning from the gurus, but then being blessed to have a service laboratory in which I could practice it all; I was a hotel exec for almost 30 years. Thus I came to believe that people-energy is our most important resource in business – more than time, more than financial capital (for energy creates those two things). People are not necessarily our greatest asset; energetic people are. This is probably the best/ most recent article I have written about it if you’d like to take a look:
http://talkingstory.org/2009/06/3-ways-managers-create-energetic-workplaces/

Mahalo Bret, I do feel welcomed here. Thank you for the question and opportunity to better explain.

]]> By: Bret L. Simmons http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1653 Bret L. Simmons Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:18:52 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1653 Aloha, Rosa! Very interesting new distinction that you introduce to the discussion. Can you tell me where you learned this? I do so strongly concur with questioning and challenge. Thanks for your thoughts and you are welcome here any time! Bret Aloha, Rosa! Very interesting new distinction that you introduce to the discussion. Can you tell me where you learned this? I do so strongly concur with questioning and challenge. Thanks for your thoughts and you are welcome here any time! Bret

]]> By: Rosa Say http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1652 Rosa Say Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:21:26 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1652 Aloha Bret, I’m one who has always been irritated by this distinction for the reason that you and Wally discuss within this conversation – like Wally, I was dismayed when “Bennis and Nanus then went on to turn it into a distinction between types of people” for I too prefer to talk about managing and leading as verbs which all managers can seize. I go as far as calling everyone managers, and supervisors and leaders are org chart titles I stay away from as much as I can (though I do admire Wally’s care for those in the conventional role). Second, we all need to focus on what we believe to be the ‘right’ things. I did listen patiently throughout your video as you requested though, and I do believe we are like-minded with this. I also concur with the foundational aspects of management you speak of as being so important: They create both the confidence and credibility that moves someone into having more courage for leadership. I offer up another distinction: In Managing with Aloha we work on leading to create energy (in a visionary way) and on managing to channel the energy (in a highly productive, and personally meaningful way) – again: All managers work on both, and striving for Pono (the Hawaiian value of rightness). What is best of all? That we question versus blindly accepting any of this, and that we have these conversations which challenge us all to be better, so mahalo, thank you for this discussion. Aloha Bret,
I’m one who has always been irritated by this distinction for the reason that you and Wally discuss within this conversation – like Wally, I was dismayed when “Bennis and Nanus then went on to turn it into a distinction between types of people” for I too prefer to talk about managing and leading as verbs which all managers can seize. I go as far as calling everyone managers, and supervisors and leaders are org chart titles I stay away from as much as I can (though I do admire Wally’s care for those in the conventional role). Second, we all need to focus on what we believe to be the ‘right’ things.

I did listen patiently throughout your video as you requested though, and I do believe we are like-minded with this. I also concur with the foundational aspects of management you speak of as being so important: They create both the confidence and credibility that moves someone into having more courage for leadership.

I offer up another distinction: In Managing with Aloha we work on leading to create energy (in a visionary way) and on managing to channel the energy (in a highly productive, and personally meaningful way) – again: All managers work on both, and striving for Pono (the Hawaiian value of rightness).

What is best of all? That we question versus blindly accepting any of this, and that we have these conversations which challenge us all to be better, so mahalo, thank you for this discussion.

]]> By: Bret L. Simmons http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1651 Bret L. Simmons Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:05:28 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1651 Concur 100%, and well said. As your time permits, can you point my readers to a link at your site where you discuss the difference between management work and supervision work? Thanks! Bret Concur 100%, and well said. As your time permits, can you point my readers to a link at your site where you discuss the difference between management work and supervision work? Thanks! Bret

]]> By: Wally Bock http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-11/my-favorite-way-to-think-about-leadership-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1650 Wally Bock Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:53:17 +0000 http://www.bretlsimmons.com/?p=1589#comment-1650 I don't have even the tiniest disagreement with the way you treat this, Bret. You consistently discuss this as different kinds of work, as opposed to different kinds of people. The fact is that if you're responsible for the performance of a group you have to do leadership work and management work and supervision work. You have no choice about this. You only have a choice about what you will do and how well. I don’t have even the tiniest disagreement with the way you treat this, Bret. You consistently discuss this as different kinds of work, as opposed to different kinds of people. The fact is that if you’re responsible for the performance of a group you have to do leadership work and management work and supervision work. You have no choice about this. You only have a choice about what you will do and how well.

]]>