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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-08/the-responsibility-for-self-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 13:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob: Sincerely appreciate your thoughts.  Concur that a responsibility of leadership is to creat the context for excellence to flourish.  Not sure I agree about engagement being necessary for change.  At this point, like a lot of stuff on engagement, my belief is that statement is anecdotal and not supported by any peer reviewed research I have seen.  Thanks for taking the time to share!  Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob: Sincerely appreciate your thoughts.  Concur that a responsibility of leadership is to creat the context for excellence to flourish.  Not sure I agree about engagement being necessary for change.  At this point, like a lot of stuff on engagement, my belief is that statement is anecdotal and not supported by any peer reviewed research I have seen.  Thanks for taking the time to share!  Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.bretlsimmons.com/2009-08/the-responsibility-for-self-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. Engagement, to be enduring as a force for change, needs to be self directed. However, leadership can help create the conditions for people to accomplish this; this is, for me, a principle leadership accountability, as engagement is a pre-requisite for successful change.

For practical tools and exercises that help to inspire higher engagement, please see:

www.engagingideas.co.uk

Best,

Rob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Engagement, to be enduring as a force for change, needs to be self directed. However, leadership can help create the conditions for people to accomplish this; this is, for me, a principle leadership accountability, as engagement is a pre-requisite for successful change.</p>
<p>For practical tools and exercises that help to inspire higher engagement, please see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engagingideas.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.engagingideas.co.uk</a></p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Rob.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randi:  Very well said.  I concur.  It IS our responsibility to find the work we can engage in.  It does take courage to move on for the right reasons, but in the end we learn we can survive and thrive because of it.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts!  Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randi:  Very well said.  I concur.  It IS our responsibility to find the work we can engage in.  It does take courage to move on for the right reasons, but in the end we learn we can survive and thrive because of it.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts!  Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Randi Sandlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randi Sandlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 04:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good points and great discussion.  Bottom line:
I don&#039;t know anyone who jumps out of bed looking forward to being unhappy all day long.  I am sure they are out there and I hope they take their meds.  People doing what they love is the key; and it is the responsibility of each of us to say honestly &quot;this is&quot; or it &quot;is not&quot; working for me. We each need to find our fit, our excitement, and then the &quot;engagement&quot; is basically moot because we really enjoy what we do. We need courage to make the move if it is the wrong position.  Mentors, managers, pastors, friends, and family who help us identify and support our decisions as we evolve through our career journey are invaluable.  If an organization has help like that, great. If not, it is our responsibility to find our direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points and great discussion.  Bottom line:<br />
I don&#8217;t know anyone who jumps out of bed looking forward to being unhappy all day long.  I am sure they are out there and I hope they take their meds.  People doing what they love is the key; and it is the responsibility of each of us to say honestly &#8220;this is&#8221; or it &#8220;is not&#8221; working for me. We each need to find our fit, our excitement, and then the &#8220;engagement&#8221; is basically moot because we really enjoy what we do. We need courage to make the move if it is the wrong position.  Mentors, managers, pastors, friends, and family who help us identify and support our decisions as we evolve through our career journey are invaluable.  If an organization has help like that, great. If not, it is our responsibility to find our direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yancy:

I appreciate the time and effort you put into your comment.  I can&#039;t disagree with anything you have to say.  Knowing your rights is fundamental, but so is knowing your responsibilities.  And one of MY responsibilities is to know my rights and the rights of my constituents.  

I am keen to make sure my rights are not violated, but I am even more keen to making sure I am bringing MORE than what my employer ever expected from me to work.  I do that for me, its just the right thing to do.

Thanks!

Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yancy:</p>
<p>I appreciate the time and effort you put into your comment.  I can&#8217;t disagree with anything you have to say.  Knowing your rights is fundamental, but so is knowing your responsibilities.  And one of MY responsibilities is to know my rights and the rights of my constituents.  </p>
<p>I am keen to make sure my rights are not violated, but I am even more keen to making sure I am bringing MORE than what my employer ever expected from me to work.  I do that for me, its just the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Bret L. Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret L. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance: I totally concur with your point about being a teacher and facilitator.  Consider yourself a resource, not THE source.

Susan: Your points are excellent.  We are entirely on the same page.  Create the environment you want and need to excell - love that!

Stuart: You make a great point about how this is a cultural thing that should be communicated BEFORE folks are hired. That way people could select themselves into or out of this self responsible environment.  So true that employers track but employees really don&#039;t care because they don&#039;t have to.

Lance, Susan, Stuart - thanks for taking the time and effort to share your thoughts.  I appreciate it very much. Thanks!  Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance: I totally concur with your point about being a teacher and facilitator.  Consider yourself a resource, not THE source.</p>
<p>Susan: Your points are excellent.  We are entirely on the same page.  Create the environment you want and need to excell &#8211; love that!</p>
<p>Stuart: You make a great point about how this is a cultural thing that should be communicated BEFORE folks are hired. That way people could select themselves into or out of this self responsible environment.  So true that employers track but employees really don&#8217;t care because they don&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>Lance, Susan, Stuart &#8211; thanks for taking the time and effort to share your thoughts.  I appreciate it very much. Thanks!  Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Yancey Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yancey Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mr. Simmons,

I agree with your comment response; 

&quot;Yet I have a strong message for followers: even if your leadership is not providing you conditions that facilitate engagement, that does NOT relieve YOU of the responsibility to engage at work and to engage with your leadership to make conditions better.&quot;

However, as an employment mediator I have found the one critical element in a truly successful employment experience for leaders and followers is the near non-existent mindset for basic employee rights awareness, education and training.

I educate and coach many college grads, career seekers and employee on the importance of learning basic employee rights BEFORE seeking and ACCEPTING a position with an organization. Why? When one enters a workplace armed with the knowledge of what the workplace should offer and expect in return for the followers &quot;responsibility to engage...&quot;

the issues that develop into  potentially negative conflict are greatly diminished, at least from the employees side. As you point out, &quot;even if your leadership is not providing you conditions that facilitate engagement,&quot; all to often incompetent management structures routinely violate employee workplace rights.

This is often due to the fact employers don&#039;t invest time or resources in education and training their &quot;leaders&quot; concerning basic employee rights. Thus, an environment of negative conflict, distrust and low morale takes the place of &quot;partnership, performance, and caring&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mr. Simmons,</p>
<p>I agree with your comment response; </p>
<p>&#8220;Yet I have a strong message for followers: even if your leadership is not providing you conditions that facilitate engagement, that does NOT relieve YOU of the responsibility to engage at work and to engage with your leadership to make conditions better.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, as an employment mediator I have found the one critical element in a truly successful employment experience for leaders and followers is the near non-existent mindset for basic employee rights awareness, education and training.</p>
<p>I educate and coach many college grads, career seekers and employee on the importance of learning basic employee rights BEFORE seeking and ACCEPTING a position with an organization. Why? When one enters a workplace armed with the knowledge of what the workplace should offer and expect in return for the followers &#8220;responsibility to engage&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>the issues that develop into  potentially negative conflict are greatly diminished, at least from the employees side. As you point out, &#8220;even if your leadership is not providing you conditions that facilitate engagement,&#8221; all to often incompetent management structures routinely violate employee workplace rights.</p>
<p>This is often due to the fact employers don&#8217;t invest time or resources in education and training their &#8220;leaders&#8221; concerning basic employee rights. Thus, an environment of negative conflict, distrust and low morale takes the place of &#8220;partnership, performance, and caring&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Marion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret, I enjoyed your article and agree with everything you say.  It is critical that people (employees) become more aware of what is expected of them in the corporate community; they should not leave that up to senior leadership.  

I have found that many organizations do not focus on this (self engagement) from the beginning of a new hire experience. Employee engagement is something that employers track, but something that the employees are not mindful of.  Employees need to understand how they fit into the culture and what is expected of them, and how that benefits them, their development and their future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret, I enjoyed your article and agree with everything you say.  It is critical that people (employees) become more aware of what is expected of them in the corporate community; they should not leave that up to senior leadership.  </p>
<p>I have found that many organizations do not focus on this (self engagement) from the beginning of a new hire experience. Employee engagement is something that employers track, but something that the employees are not mindful of.  Employees need to understand how they fit into the culture and what is expected of them, and how that benefits them, their development and their future.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Penn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Penn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your points are excellent Brett.  When leading my previous team, I communicated the fact that each of us was responsible for the environment we created.  Having the team build and create what they wanted this environment to be resulted in a  mutually held responsibility for the creation and sustainability of that environment.  The belief that it is the company or the manager&#039;s responsibility for employee engagement is a control based model that cannot succeed.  On the other hand, it is up to the Managers and leaders within an organization to be open to and encourage the manifestations of engagement, i.e., ideas, innovation, creativity, ownership, showcasing others abilities and talents, transparency, honesty, etc!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your points are excellent Brett.  When leading my previous team, I communicated the fact that each of us was responsible for the environment we created.  Having the team build and create what they wanted this environment to be resulted in a  mutually held responsibility for the creation and sustainability of that environment.  The belief that it is the company or the manager&#8217;s responsibility for employee engagement is a control based model that cannot succeed.  On the other hand, it is up to the Managers and leaders within an organization to be open to and encourage the manifestations of engagement, i.e., ideas, innovation, creativity, ownership, showcasing others abilities and talents, transparency, honesty, etc!</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Haun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance Haun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post Bret. I love the change in dynamic from organizations that want to be responsible for keeping their employees engaged to organizations that focus on creating a space for self-engaged employees to thrive. 

Giving is good but not at the expense of people not learning how to provide for themselves. Becoming a teacher and transitioning into a facilitator is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post Bret. I love the change in dynamic from organizations that want to be responsible for keeping their employees engaged to organizations that focus on creating a space for self-engaged employees to thrive. </p>
<p>Giving is good but not at the expense of people not learning how to provide for themselves. Becoming a teacher and transitioning into a facilitator is better.</p>
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